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Murray Ritchie, Former convenor of the convention and former political editor for The Herald.

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FACTS GETTING IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY

The old political maxim says that if you tell a lie often enough people will begin to believe it. The classic example these days, advanced by politicians and the anti-independence newspapers (which means most of them) is that polls consistently show Scots reject independence.

Whatever happened to the facts?

It takes only a few minutes to check on recent polls where the independence question is put in the simplest terms: Do you approve or disapprove of Scotland becoming an independent country?

The more complicated question, which amounts to the same thing, goes like this: The Scottish government should negotiate a settlement with the government of the United Kingdom so that Scotland becomes an independent state. Do you approve or disapprove?

When you look at the responses to these polls you begin to see why there is so much resistance to the Scottish people being allowed to decide whether to become independent. It’s pretty obvious really. The Yes vote would very probably win.

Last year polls by TNS System Three for the Sunday Herald showed approval of independence in straight Yes/No polls jumping from 35% (with 50% against) to 40% in favour (44% against), and then to a majority of 41% in favour with 40% against.

Last year the Daily Mail showed support for independence at 51% with 36% against. Earlier this year the Mail had those in favour of independence at 41% with 43% against. In other words even if the second poll was the more accurate it would require a swing of only 2% for a victory for the Yes campaign.

In the past there have been even more encouraging polls for independence supporters – call in evidence the Daily Telegraph reporting 52% of Scots in favour and the Scotsman some time ago also with a simple majority.

So where do the Unionists and their media chums get the idea that “the Scots don’t want independence”?

They take what comfort they can from multi-option polls suggesting stronger devolution is, for many of us, preferable to independence. This is why all the Unionist parties are rushing to promise us a further extension of devolution, probably some new but very limited taxation power. They calculate this will buy off the growing demand for independence. Some hope. History shows that regional or devolved legislatures everywhere always respond to winning new powers by demanding yet more. More devolution will merely postpone, briefly, our decision in favour of independence. We should just cut to the chase now.

But you can be sure the Unionists in their panic will keep up the bluff that we are afraid of independence.  We need to point them to the facts.

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Alan in Dyfed 24/07/08
You are right in what you say, and independence will happen sooner or later. The facts speak for themselves and the naysayers will not stop the tide. http://alanindyfed.blogspot.com/
   
Alan in Dyfed 26/07/08

Newsflash : Earthquake in Scotland!
 
Scotland is not prone to earthquakes, but yesterday in Glasgow East the earth moved. Moreover, if the earth moved in Glasgow East, which was the third safest Labour seat in the country, how much more would the earth have moved if there had been a general election? The Scots Nationalists would have gained 50 seats. Imagine..... 50+ Scots Nat. MPs in Westminster. Independence would have been granted on the spot, without more shilly-shallying one would suppose. The people of Scotland have spoken and the message they send to their compatriot (?) Gordon Brown cannot be ignored. We must be thankful for the 365 votes, one for every day of the year, that carried the day.
Scotland will never be the same again, and neither will the British constitution. Yesterday's earthquake has rocked it to its very foundations.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/25/glasgoweast.gordonbrown

Posted by alanindyfed
http://alanindyfed.blogspot.com/

   
Patrick Francis 14/08/08
Yes you're right. Although we should extend the vote to all the people of the UK. The question in England should be "do approve or disapprove of England becoming independent' after all, we're sick and tried of listening to you moan and moan and moan all the time. In fact, moaning has become such a prevalent attitude in Scotland that I wonder what would replace it once its gone forever?
   

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